A summer re-run and a chance to listen again.
Olympic gold medal winner and climate campaigner Etienne Stott meets one of his heroes, Steve Backshall.
Steve's incredible expedition's have made into dozens of TV programmes and brought paddling to a mainstream audience. It's a fascinating conversation.
They start with Steve's recent trip to the Arctic - the wildlife he's encountered, the incredible Northern Lights and his absolute love of the sea kayak. There are some great stories!
Steve also talks about his dramatic rescue on a trip to Bhutan when he feared he was drowning.
Etienne and Steve discus the climate emergency and their hopes for the future.
Steve explains why he supports British Canoeing's Clear Access, Clear Waters campaign and tells us of the problems he and his wife have encountered from the river banks.
And Steve and Etienne discover they share two other things - they both started paddling in the Scouts and they've both just taken Open University degrees.
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